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02/11/2020 08:00 AM House TRIBAL AFFAIRS

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08:02:25 AM Start
08:03:04 AM Presentation: Alaska Tribal Health Compact
09:12:57 AM Adjourn
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Natasha Singh, Tanana Chiefs Conference
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
           HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON TRIBAL AFFAIRS                                                                          
                       February 11, 2020                                                                                        
                           8:02 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tiffany Zulkosky, Chair                                                                                          
Representative Bryce Edgmon, Vice Chair                                                                                         
Representative John Lincoln                                                                                                     
Representative Chuck Kopp                                                                                                       
Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                        
Representative Dave Talerico                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sarah Vance                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: ALASKA TRIBAL HEALTH COMPACT BY NATASHA SINGH~                                                                    
TANANA CHIEFS CONFERENCE                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
NATASHA SINGH, General Counsel                                                                                                  
Tanana Chief's Conference                                                                                                       
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Offered a presentation on The Alaska Tribal                                                              
Health Compact.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
VERNE BOERNER, President and CEO                                                                                                
Alaska Native Health Board                                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided information and responded to                                                                    
questions during the presentation on The Alaska Tribal Health                                                                   
Compact.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:02:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TIFFANY ZULKOSKY  called  the House  Special Committee  on                                                             
Tribal Affairs  meeting to  order at  8:02 a.m.   Representatives                                                               
Lincoln, Ortiz,  Kopp, Talerico, and  Edgmon were present  at the                                                               
call to order.   Representative Vance arrived as  the meeting was                                                               
in progress.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: ALASKA TRIBAL HEALTH COMPACT                                                                                     
           PRESENTATION: ALASKA TRIBAL HEALTH COMPACT                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:03:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NATASHA  SINGH,  General   Counsel,  Tanana  Chief's  Conference,                                                               
offered  a  presentation  on The  Alaska  Tribal  Health  Compact                                                               
(hereafter  the  ATHC  or  "the   compact").    She  thanked  the                                                               
committee for  having been  invited to  educate the  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature   on  the   history  and   opportunities  in   tribal                                                               
compacting.    Ms.  Singh  informed the  committee  that  she  is                                                               
originally  from   Stevens  Village,   Alaska,  but   resides  in                                                               
Fairbanks,  Alaska, where  she raises  her family  and works  for                                                               
Tanana  Chiefs  Conference  (TCC),  a tribal  health  and  social                                                               
services consortium that provides  services to Alaskans living in                                                               
Interior villages and to tribal members living in Fairbanks.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH  related that TCC  is one of  the 25 co-signers  of the                                                               
compact, which she  stated is likely the  most successful compact                                                               
in  the history  of the  Indian Self-Determination  and Education                                                               
Assistance Act  of 1975 (ISDEAA).   She explained the  reason she                                                               
said the  ATHC is the  most successful compact is  because severe                                                               
health disparities  are being reversed  for Alaska  Native people                                                               
in one  of the most  remote and rural  areas of the  country, and                                                               
this  is  happening  while  the  AHTC  is  suffering  significant                                                               
underfunding by the U.S. Congress.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SINGH  imparted to  the  committee  that the  Alaska  Tribal                                                               
Health  System ("the  system") is  made possible  because of  the                                                               
compact,  an agreement  between  the federal  government and  the                                                               
Alaska Tribal  Health entities.   She added  that the  compact is                                                               
successful  because  tribal   leaders  are  the  decision-makers,                                                               
planners,  and strategists  in the  implementation  of their  own                                                               
health care.   She stressed  that, rather than  being race-based,                                                               
this  is  a  government-to-government  relationship  between  the                                                               
federal  government  and  tribes.    The  reason  for  this,  she                                                               
explained,  is that  the compact  is built  on the  Federal Trust                                                               
Responsibility  created  through   treaties  signed  with  tribal                                                               
governments.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SINGH  went on  to  say  that  before the  compact,  chronic                                                               
underfunding,  extremely  rural  nature of  villages,  and,  most                                                               
importantly,  the  absence  of  locally  driven  decision  making                                                               
resulted  in a  lack of  quality  provided by  the Indian  Health                                                               
Service  (IHS) [an  agency of  the  US Department  of Health  and                                                               
Human  Services].   She  added  that Lower  48  tribes were  also                                                               
experiencing  similar  outcomes from  IHS,  so  in 1988  Congress                                                               
passed  the  ISDEAA  amendments.   Whereas  the  original  ISDEAA                                                               
provided  the  necessary  authority  for  tribes  to  enter  into                                                               
agreements  that carry  out the  responsibilities of  the federal                                                               
government, these 88  amendments addressed inflexible bureaucracy                                                               
and federal inefficiencies, and  increased the tribe's ability to                                                               
redesign  and tailor  services  to the  specific  needs of  their                                                               
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.   SINGH  imparted   to  the   committee  that   agencies  and                                                               
bureaucracies  resist the  implementation of  self-determination,                                                               
despite proven  success, and  legislative support  is continually                                                               
needed to  fully implement the intent  of the ISDEAA.   She added                                                               
that,  soon  after the  amendments  to  the ISDEEA  were  passed,                                                               
Alaska was offered  an IHS demonstration project.   Alaska tribes                                                               
and health  entities quickly joined  together to create  a multi-                                                               
party  compact  consisting of  all  those  that wanted  to  join,                                                               
something  that  had never  been  done  through  IHS.   With  the                                                               
support of  the Alaska area  IHS office and the  determination of                                                               
tribal leaders, the ATHC was created in 1994.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:07:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH went  on to say that compacting is  just one choice the                                                               
ISDEAA provides  for self-determination;  the other  option being                                                               
to  assume operations  of a  federal program.   Furthermore,  she                                                               
added  that self-determination  contracts  require less  in-depth                                                               
planning to begin  the tribal assumption of  operations, but that                                                               
those  contracts  also provide  for  less  flexibility and  local                                                               
control over how a program is implemented.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH  informed the  committee that  compacting on  a federal                                                               
level  requires tribes  to initiate  a planning  phase to  assume                                                               
operations of a federal program  and to prove financial stability                                                               
of the  tribe.  This  longer process  allows tribes to  have more                                                               
flexibility  in how  the programs  are designed  and implemented,                                                               
and  ultimately allows  for  more local  control  of funding  and                                                               
program outcomes.   The true  beauty of compacting,  according to                                                               
Ms. Singh,  is the fact  that tribal leaders have  full authority                                                               
to  decide for  themselves  the  best way  to  address their  own                                                               
health care needs.   Ms. Singh emphasized that  [in compacting] a                                                               
tribe is forced  to be accountable for its own  people.  As such,                                                               
TCC answers to  its tribes continually throughout the  year.  The                                                               
tribes, split into six sub-regions,  are met with twice per year.                                                               
Tribes  are met  with upon  request in  their own  village or  in                                                               
Fairbanks,  and all  tribes are  brought together  to meet  twice                                                               
yearly.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH informed the committee  that at all meetings tribes are                                                               
able to  take formal action,  through resolutions or  motions, to                                                               
direct  TCC.     The  tribes  also  contribute   to  and  oversee                                                               
implementation  of  TCC's  strategic  plan.    The  boss  of  the                                                               
thousand  employees at  TCC is  elected by  the tribe  and serves                                                               
three-year terms:   this is  tribal accountability  through self-                                                               
determination.  Through the ATHC,  the health care information is                                                               
owned  by  the  tribe;  therefore,   practices  can  be  changed,                                                               
programs  redesigned,  and  services, functions,  and  activities                                                               
augmented to  best fit  regional needs.   At  a TCC  meeting, she                                                               
explained, if  there is  an issue  with service  delivery, tribes                                                               
can  explain  their  plan  for  redesign,  and  staff  will  move                                                               
accordingly.  If  a program is not properly funded,  the tribe is                                                               
allowed the  flexibility to reallocate funds  and cobble together                                                               
funding streams as the tribe sees  fit.  Ms. Singh mentioned that                                                               
the state  of Alaska could  learn from this manner  of conducting                                                               
business.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH  went on to  say that the  AHTC does have  some strings                                                               
attached:  co-signers  are obligated to provide  an annual single                                                               
organization-wide  audit as  prescribed by  the Single  Audit Act                                                               
(SAA) of  1984.  The secretary  of the U.S. Department  of Health                                                               
and Human  Services submits a  report to the Senate  Committee on                                                               
Indian  Affairs   and  the  House  Natural   Resources  Committee                                                               
detailing the level  of need that is underfunded.   The boards at                                                               
TCC are well educated in the  audit process and take pride in the                                                               
lack  of findings,  she added,  and  robust accounting  divisions                                                               
often  include an  internal auditor  who  triple-checks that  the                                                               
little  money  received  from the  federal  government  is  spent                                                               
properly.  Ms. Singh let  the committee know that currently there                                                               
are  over 25  diverse co-signers,  and that  financially the  co-                                                               
signers are  also very different,  ranging from  small, community                                                               
health aid  programs under 60,000,  to a large  statewide medical                                                               
center  and   environmental  health   program  with   over  2,000                                                               
employees.  Co-signers,  the IHS, and partners make  up the ATHS,                                                               
which is rooted in community and tribally driven.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:12:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SINGH informed  the committee  that the  system consists  of                                                               
community clinics, sub-regional  services, regional services, and                                                               
statewide  services and  is interconnected  through sophisticated                                                               
patterns of  referrals in  its primary  mission of  improving the                                                               
health  status of  Alaska Native  people.   As  a co-signer,  TCC                                                               
relies on the "common" ATHC,  a perpetual agreement that sets the                                                               
general terms  of the  nation-to-nation relationship  between the                                                               
United  States  and  the  Alaska  tribes as  it  relates  to  the                                                               
implementation  of  health care  services.    All the  co-signers                                                               
under the  compact speak with  one voice when they  negotiate; in                                                               
order  to do  this,  all final,  common  decisions affecting  the                                                               
ATHC, whether  they regard resource  distribution or  others, are                                                               
made through  the consensus  process with  tribal representatives                                                               
of the co-signer.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SINGH  added  that  once  the  co-signer  agrees,  a  strict                                                               
protocol  of  negotiation  rules govern  the  annual  negotiation                                                               
process.  The  negotiations are a time when the  parties are able                                                               
to discuss, update, and make changes  to four key documents:  the                                                               
ATHC itself,  which is  a perpetual  document amended  as needed,                                                               
but  not necessarily  every year;  the funding  agreements, which                                                               
can  be multi-year  or amended  at each  annual negotiation,  and                                                               
usually  include a  highly  individualized scope  of  work as  is                                                               
common in  other individual provisions; the  funding tables, also                                                               
known as  "Appendix A"  to the  funding agreement,  which provide                                                               
the  beginning funding  amounts for  each annual  funding period,                                                               
and  in which  funding  allocations for  each  co-signer are  re-                                                               
calculated   based   on   the  approved   Alaska   tribal   share                                                               
distribution  formula  and   co-signer  selections  for  retained                                                               
services  and buy-back  services  from the  IHS;  and, last,  the                                                               
continuing services  agreement, another  sort of appendix  to the                                                               
funding  agreement and  an annual  description of  the scope  and                                                               
extent of services which will continue  to be provided by the IHS                                                               
office in Alaska.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:15:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH said  the negotiations have been built  on a foundation                                                               
of good faith,  trust, and government-to-government relationship.                                                               
The shared goals of negotiations, as  well as the shared goals of                                                               
the nations, according  to Ms. Singh, include  being prepared and                                                               
sharing information early  and often so parties are  able to stay                                                               
transparent  and  honest  with   each  other,  as  the  continued                                                               
relationship  between the  parties  is just  as  valuable as  the                                                               
outcome of  the negotiations.   When these  rules are  not enough                                                               
for  a  successful  negotiation,  the  ISDEAA  provides  for  the                                                               
backbone of the ATHC.  With  the ATHC's current language, IHS has                                                               
a clearer understanding of its legal  mandates.  When they do not                                                               
have a  clear understanding,  the tribes will  point them  in the                                                               
right direction.  Because of ISDEAA,  the ATHC, and the ATHS, Ms.                                                               
Singh  shared with  the committee,  smiles of  children in  rural                                                               
Alaska are improving.   Because of the dental  health aid therapy                                                               
program, children in rural Alaska are cavity-free.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH  went on to say  that these achievements by  ATHS, made                                                               
possible because  of the compact,  have been done  without tribes                                                               
and  tribal  health  entities  being   required  to  waive  their                                                               
sovereign immunity.  Tribes and  co-signers of ATHC are deemed by                                                               
ISDEEA to  be a part of  the public health services  for purposes                                                               
of coverage under  the Federal Tort Claims  Act (FTCA), including                                                               
medical  malpractice claims.   Ms.  Singh  encouraged the  Alaska                                                               
Legislature  to  study  the  ISDEEA  as  a  possible  method  for                                                               
providing  similar  coverage for  state  compacters.   Ms.  Singh                                                               
closed by  stating that  tribes are  amazing entities  when given                                                               
the authority and trust to address their own issues.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:18:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON asked  Ms. Singh her thoughts  on using the                                                               
ISDEEA model with regard to public safety.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:18:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH  answered that it  made sense, and referenced  a report                                                               
by  twelfth  Assistant  Secretary  of  the  Interior  for  Indian                                                               
Affairs' Kevin  Washburn, in which he  determined that compacting                                                               
and  self-determination for  public  safety is  the next  logical                                                               
step in tribal  self-determination and it is how  we can actually                                                               
impact other social  health barriers such as  education and child                                                               
protection.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:19:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON followed up  by asking whether the auditing                                                               
process,  with  its different  components  of  regional and  sub-                                                               
regional,  is more  involved than  a normal  auditing process  in                                                               
which there would be essentially one round.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:20:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SINGH  replied that  she  wished  she could  take  committee                                                               
members through  TCC's accounting division and  administration so                                                               
they  could see  the  internal  controls they  have  in place  to                                                               
protect the tribal resources and  ensure that they are being used                                                               
in the  proper way.   She added that if  it were not  the federal                                                               
government, the  SAA, or  the ISDEEA that  required them  to have                                                               
such strict internal controls, it  would be the tribe itself that                                                               
would require them as such.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:21:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ZULKOSKY asked  Ms. Singh to remind the  committee what the                                                               
four key documents are over which the co-signers negotiate.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:21:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH  replied that the  compact is  about 25 pages  and lays                                                               
out the  fundamentals and what is  being done for the  ATHS.  The                                                               
actual  funding  agreement lays  out  exactly  what services  TCC                                                               
provides  to  Interior  Alaska,  she  continued,  which  is  very                                                               
different from  what the Arctic  Slope Native  Association (ASNA)                                                               
provides,  because  instead of  having  the  ability to  redesign                                                               
programs,  they lay  out, in  agreement form,  what the  services                                                               
are.   After all  the tribes at  negotiations compact  the common                                                               
documents,  individual funding  agreements are  negotiated.   Ms.                                                               
Singh  pointed   out  the  importance  of   the  funding  tables'                                                               
"Appendix A," which deals with  the complex funding formulas tied                                                               
to  many  different departments  within  the  U.S. Department  of                                                               
Health  and Human  Services,  which  impact everyone  differently                                                               
throughout the  state:  TCC, she  noted as an example,  is one of                                                               
the only regions that doesn't have a hospital.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:24:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SINGH  informed  the  committee that  TCC  funding  goes  to                                                               
Fairbanks  Memorial  Hospital,  which  serves  the  tribe.    The                                                               
funding "bucket," she  continued, is very important to  TCC.  She                                                               
added that  often negotiations  happen internally  between tribes                                                               
first,   and  it's   a  real   awesome  demonstration   in  self-                                                               
determination  in  that tribes  sit  down  and negotiate  between                                                               
themselves  first,  and sometimes  with  not  much funding  there                                                               
isn't  much disagreement  over  who gets  the  pennies, but  when                                                               
there is new funding available,  complex negotiations take place.                                                               
Ms. Singh related that the next  step is to determine how funding                                                               
will  be distributed.   Finally,  there's the  continuing service                                                               
agreement:  even  though the tribes in Alaska have  taken over 90                                                               
percent  of the  health care  services, there  are some  residual                                                               
services  the   Alaska  area  [IHS]   still  provides,   and  the                                                               
continuing  service  agreement lays  out  what  those are.    She                                                               
offered as an example the  tribes' takeover of the Village Public                                                               
Safety  Officer  Program  (VPSO).   There  would  still  be  some                                                               
administrative  oversight  that  the  state  would  provide,  she                                                               
acknowledged:  on the  IHS side  is a  chief medical  officer who                                                               
oversees  the health  aide certification  and  the manuals;  that                                                               
officer  also sits  on  the  board to  ensure  compliance on  the                                                               
federal side.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:26:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP   said  that  he  appreciated   Ms.  Singh's                                                               
comments about compacting public safety,  and that he thought the                                                               
entire VPSO  program budget was  about $11 million  dollars total                                                               
within  the Department  of Public  Safety  (DPS).   He asked  Ms.                                                               
Singh whether she knew the total value of the ATHC.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:27:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH  replied that  she didn't know,  but that  the question                                                               
could  possibly be  answered  by Verne  Boerner  from the  Alaska                                                               
Native Health  Board (ANHB),  the next  testifier, who  would get                                                               
into more details of economic impacts.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:27:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP posited  that the total value of  the ATHC is                                                               
actually in the billions and that  he was certain it could manage                                                               
a $1 million dollar program.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:28:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ZULKOSKY said  that Representative  Kopp's point  was well                                                               
taken.   She then asked Ms.  Singh to revisit the  portion of her                                                               
statement  regarding  sovereign  immunity   with  regard  to  the                                                               
federal government's  coverage of tribes and  tribal consortiums'                                                               
liabilities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:28:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SINGH replied  that  ATHC employees  are  covered under  the                                                               
Federal Tort  Claims Act  (FTCA), a  statute which  provides tort                                                               
coverage  to federally  employed medical  providers.   Because of                                                               
this,  she added,  TCC does  not  need to  waive their  sovereign                                                               
immunity.   If  an  issue  comes up  and  someone is  questioning                                                               
medical  malpractice,  TCC  works   with  federal  attorneys  and                                                               
investigators,  who  do  a  thorough review  of  the  case  file.                                                               
Certain  protocols  must be  abided  by  in  order to  keep  tort                                                               
coverage intact  in these cases, and  federal attorneys represent                                                               
the tribal entities  if a lawsuit arises.  She  added that in the                                                               
11 years  she has been at  TCC they have not  reached this point.                                                               
She then postulated  that after a thorough review,  the number of                                                               
lawsuits would be remarkably low.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:30:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ZULKOSKY  asked Ms. Singh  to speak to the  committee about                                                               
the importance  for Alaska tribes  of keeping  sovereign immunity                                                               
intact and  what it means in  terms of recognition, and  how that                                                               
relationship has been able to be maintained through the ATHC.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:31:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH  related that, just like  the state of Alaska  wants to                                                               
protect  itself   from  being   sued,  the  public   interest  in                                                               
government  is  more  important  than a  private  interest  in  a                                                               
lawsuit.   Every time someone is  sued, she added, it  is because                                                               
they have  waived their sovereign  immunity.  It's the  same with                                                               
tribes:   the government  can't be totally  torn down  through an                                                               
individual lawsuit.   She provided  the following  example: there                                                               
is  a small  grant  from the  state of  Alaska  for $100,000  for                                                               
weatherization of  homes.   A request is  made to  waive immunity                                                               
for  all  programs in  order  to  receive  said grant,  and  then                                                               
something happens  in the implementation  of the grant  and there                                                               
is a liability  lawsuit.  According to Ms. Singh,  it's not worth                                                               
the risk,  especially to a  small village whose  entire operation                                                               
could shut  down.  She  urged the committee  to do away  with the                                                               
waiving of sovereign  immunity in broad strokes  because it's not                                                               
worth it  if it's for something  much greater than what  is being                                                               
given.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:35:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ZULKOSKY checked that Ms. Singh  was saying it came down to                                                               
tribes being  asked to  waive a  disproportionate amount  of risk                                                               
and responsibility  for a value  and return that's  not providing                                                               
such  broad  benefits to  the  communities  that the  tribes  are                                                               
serving.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:35:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH agreed with the summary.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:36:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VERNE  BOERNER, President  and CEO,  Alaska Native  Health Board,                                                               
began by imparting  to the committee that she  lives in Anchorage                                                               
but that her  heart and home were in Kiana,  Alaska, and that she                                                               
is  Inupiaq   and  enrolled  in   a  Native  village   of  Kiana.                                                               
Referencing Ms.  Singh's presentation, Ms. Boerner  mentioned the                                                               
information  the committee  had  been given  regarding the  work,                                                               
relationships, and mechanisms  of the compact, and  let them know                                                               
that she would provide impact  information on how the compact has                                                               
shaped  the ATHS  and its  impact on  the state  of Alaska.   The                                                               
compact also had its twenty-fifth  anniversary last year, showing                                                               
the  strength of  the compact  and the  resilience of  its member                                                               
organizations to  work for the  betterment of all  Alaska Natives                                                               
and  American   Indians  in  Alaska.     The  compact   has  also                                                               
strengthened  the work  of  the  ATHS, Ms.  Boerner  added.   She                                                               
imparted  that  Alaska tribes  are  unmatched  nationally in  the                                                               
realization  of   the  level  of  self-determination   and  self-                                                               
governance.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOERNER, as  Ms. Singh had pointed out,  Ms. Boerner informed                                                               
the committee that the 229  federally recognized tribes in Alaska                                                               
operate  via a  single compact  agreement while  maintaining each                                                               
tribe's  and  its  respective   tribal  organization's  right  to                                                               
exercise sovereignty  and negotiate  individual agreements.   Ms.                                                               
Boerner related that the compact's  innovative system was created                                                               
out  of  necessity  to  provide health  care  and  public  health                                                               
services to  now more  than 177,000  Alaska Natives  and American                                                               
Indian people, and  the entirety of the  229 federally recognized                                                               
tribes.   The ATHS, the largest  health care system in  the state                                                               
and one of  the largest in the  country, is a vital  part of many                                                               
communities, for whom tribal health  programs are the only access                                                               
point of  care, Ms. Boerner  said, adding that many  centers have                                                               
become dually  funded community health centers  providing care to                                                               
thousands of non-Alaska Natives and American Indians.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:39:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOERNER  explained that  in 2012  a special  relationship was                                                               
forged with the Alaska Veterans  Affairs (VA), extending the VA's                                                               
footprint  from  six  points  of  access to  care  to  over  200,                                                               
reaching across  the entire  state and  providing access  to care                                                               
for Alaska veterans both Native  and non-Native, many of whom had                                                               
not  had  access  to  care  in  decades.    Due  to  its  service                                                               
population and statewide reach, the  ATHS represents a large part                                                               
of  Alaska's  economy,  Ms.  Boerner   pointed  out.    The  ANHB                                                               
commissioned an economic impact study  in 2017 and found that the                                                               
system was  5 percent of the  entire Alaska economy.   The health                                                               
system is a  larger sector of the economy than  the retail trade,                                                               
the   construction  industry,   the  professional   business  and                                                               
technical  service  sector,  all   arts  and  entertainment,  all                                                               
manufacturing,   the    information   sector,    utilities,   and                                                               
agriculture and forestry sectors.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BOERNER  relayed  that he  tribal  health  system  generated                                                               
18,000 jobs for Alaskans and  contributed a total economic output                                                               
of $2.4  billion in the state,  Ms. Boerner explained.   This can                                                               
be broken  down into economic  sectors, she continued:   the ATHS                                                               
spent approximately $63.4 million on  travel and lodging alone in                                                               
2017; it  also spent  64.6 million  in capital  expenditures that                                                               
year, which  is approximately  one third  of the  proposed fiscal                                                               
year 2021 (FY 21) state capital  budget and was at the time about                                                               
50 percent  of the  FY 2018  capital budget.   As  a part  of the                                                               
APHS, the  ATHS has served  as a  pillar for the  state's economy                                                               
and as  a partner with the  State of Alaska as  it pursues policy                                                               
and health care  coverage.  The system helps the  State of Alaska                                                               
provide  adequate  health  care  statewide  in  its  most  remote                                                               
corners  and is  an active  partner in  the public  and emergency                                                               
health response  system, Ms. Boerner imparted.   This partnership                                                               
has not only generated net economic  impact for the state, but it                                                               
has also  helped produce massive  savings to the state  budget in                                                               
the form of federal Medicaid offset.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:43:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOERNER  added that the  ATHS has  helped the state  budget a                                                               
total  of $152  million  dollars, Ms.  Boerner  explained.   That                                                               
includes  savings of  $72.6 million  in FY  19 alone,  she added.                                                               
Currently the state  expects to save $104  million through tribal                                                               
health programs in FY 21.   Because ANHB is Alaska-based, -owned,                                                               
and -operated, the ATHS can work  with the state to achieve these                                                               
types of  savings.   The compact  has made  all of  this possible                                                               
through   the  realization   of   self-determination  and   self-                                                               
governance of Alaska tribes, she  reiterated.  When governance is                                                               
returned  to  the  tribes  and  tribal  leaders,  they  can  make                                                               
decisions which  will produce the  best outcomes for  the people,                                                               
something  that is  also  true as  a part  of  the Federal  Trust                                                               
Responsibility, which underpins the ATHC.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BOERNER surmised  that with  nearly half  the tribes  in the                                                               
United States [in  Alaska], if the State of  Alaska would embrace                                                               
the sovereignty of the tribes as  partners, much could be done to                                                               
benefit  from  the  Federal Trust  Responsibility.    The  health                                                               
board's   partnership  with   the  state   is  already   yielding                                                               
substantial  savings for  the state  as a  whole, and  the tribes                                                               
have  proven  to  be  good stewards  of  the  board's  resources.                                                               
Tribes in  Alaska have the  largest businesses in the  state, are                                                               
the  largest  and  best employer,  and  have  designed  national,                                                               
award-winning, and internationally  recognized programs, said Ms.                                                               
Boerner.   She  wrapped up  by adding  that the  ATHS invests  in                                                               
Alaskans and in Alaska.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:45:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON  asked  Ms.  Boerner to  speak  about  the                                                               
compliance aspect with which the  health care system is involved,                                                               
with specific attention to the audits.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:46:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOERNER replied that there are  a number of different ways in                                                               
which  compliance  issues are  measured,  and  that many  of  the                                                               
board's  systems  are dually  funded  and  have multiple  funding                                                               
sources.    The  various  funding  sources  also  have  different                                                               
requirements,  she  added,  so many  board  facilities  are  also                                                               
community  health  centers  which  go  through  an  accreditation                                                               
process and  have to meet  reporting requirements in order  to be                                                               
become  eligible to  receive  the funding.    Some tribal  health                                                               
organizations  have to  do  as  many as  six  different types  of                                                               
audits and reporting  in a year.  Ms. Boerner  said the board has                                                               
been working  with the  federal government  to try  to streamline                                                               
some of the reporting requirements,  but the board's programs are                                                               
well documented and  reported on as far as  compliance issues are                                                               
concerned.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:48:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  replied that,  being a  member of  a tribe                                                               
himself, he was  intrigued that there are the  normal channels of                                                               
compliance   through   government   regulators,  but   also   the                                                               
compliance of measuring  up to what the people expect.   He added                                                               
that the  latter level  of compliance, informal  as it  might be,                                                               
could easily be at the top of  the list:  being answerable to the                                                               
people is a really important connection.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:48:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BOERNER  answered  Representative  Edgmon  that  she  agreed                                                               
completely;   the  most   stringent   and  selective   compliance                                                               
requirement does come through the people,  and that is one of the                                                               
beauties of self-determination and self-governance.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:49:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ZULKOSKY  asked Ms.  Boerner to speak  to how  cost savings                                                               
are realized;  not in  terms of  displacement of  particular line                                                               
items of state or federal spending,  but how the compact has been                                                               
able to improve outcomes as well as save dollars.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:50:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOERNER stated  that the numbers she gave  are actual numbers                                                               
of the portion  that the federal government  reimburses the state                                                               
through the  Medicaid program.   For services provided  to tribal                                                               
members through the ATHS, the state  is able to claim 100 percent                                                               
of  those costs  and  be  reimbursed fully  by  the  state.   She                                                               
imparted that there are also a  number of other cost savings that                                                               
come from developing  a statewide system like the  ATHS given the                                                               
vastness of  Alaska:  being  able to establish  referral patterns                                                               
and relationships  and developing  telehealth.   The system  as a                                                               
whole  is able  to benefit  from economies  of scale,  she added.                                                               
One great example  of the benefits and the savings  to the state,                                                               
she  imparted, is  the  relationship with  the  Alaska VA,  which                                                               
started  in 2012.  Prior  to  2012, veterans  had  six points  of                                                               
access to  care in the  state and  they were largely  centered in                                                               
urban areas; much of the state  was not covered and veterans were                                                               
not able to access care.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BOERNER explained  that after  the  tribal share  agreements                                                               
were entered into,  the VA extended its footprint  all across the                                                               
state to  over 200 facilities and  for the first time  in decades                                                               
veterans, Native and non-Native alike,  were able to access care.                                                               
The board  was working with  the VA to help  encourage enrollment                                                               
of benefits:   there are  an estimated 70,000 to  90,000 veterans                                                               
in  the state  of  Alaska and  only about  35,000  of those  have                                                               
enrolled  with the  VA,  Ms.  Boerner shared.    This is  another                                                               
economic driver  in being able  to provide these  services within                                                               
the state as  opposed to sending veterans out of  state for care,                                                               
she added.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:53:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LINCOLN  asked  Ms.   Boerner  to  highlight  any                                                               
programs  or technological  innovations  that  took place  within                                                               
tribal health.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:54:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOERNER replied  that she would highlight  the development of                                                               
the  community health  aide program.   She  related that  her own                                                               
grandmother  was one  of  the  first-generation community  health                                                               
aides in the  state, and that that program  has allowed community                                                               
members to  be trained  and provide  culturally relevant  care to                                                               
communities  across the  state,  even in  the smallest  villages.                                                               
The health  aide program  is currently  being implemented  in the                                                               
Lower 48, she added, and  is an evidence-based program that shows                                                               
and demonstrates  that community members  are able to  get access                                                               
to care and  interventions earlier.  The model  has been utilized                                                               
in other  parts of the  world and was  a precursor to  the dental                                                               
health aide  therapist program that was  implemented and designed                                                               
in New Zealand  following the community health  aide program that                                                               
was also brought home to Alaska.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BOERNER said  from this  same model,  the behavioral  health                                                               
aide  program has  also been  developed.   Alaska and  the tribal                                                               
health system  have been leaders in  developing telehealth across                                                               
the  nation,  she went  on  to  say,  and partnerships  with  the                                                               
Federal  Communications Commission  (FCC) extend  access to  care                                                               
via telehealth visits, which save  $850 per visit.  Award-winning                                                               
programs such as  the Nuka System of Care (also  known as "Nuka")                                                               
have also been  highlighted and implemented in the  Lower 48 with                                                               
other  tribes. The  National Health  System (NHS)  in the  United                                                               
Kingdom has also shown interest in Nuka.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:58:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ZULKOSKY  asked Ms.  Boerner to speak  to the  ground rules                                                               
aspect when it came to establishing such a successful compact.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:59:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOERNER replied that the  agreements between the tribes are a                                                               
product of many, many hours  of work and negotiations between the                                                               
tribes, and  that ground  rules come from  a basis  of consensus.                                                               
Early  on  in  the  negotiations  process,  tribes  would  remain                                                               
together into the  wee hours of the morning and  just have enough                                                               
time to return to their lodgings  and shower and come back to the                                                               
table to  continue the process,  she explained.  Putting  the 229                                                               
tribes together  in unison speaking  with the  federal government                                                               
really lifts the voice together, she added.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:01:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SINGH  advised  that  ground  rules  are  important  because                                                               
process is important.   Because TCC relies so heavily  on the IHS                                                               
to provide information and updates,  it's very important that all                                                               
deliver their summation in a  timely manner, she explained.  When                                                               
ground rules were developed, an  improvement in process was seen,                                                               
she added.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:04:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LINCOLN said that  if he remembered correctly, the                                                               
federal  government  initially  was  going  to  contract  with  a                                                               
limited  number of  tribal organizations  in the  state, but  the                                                               
tribal  community throughout  the  state came  together and  said                                                               
that rather  than just work  with one  or two tribes  they should                                                               
all work together and use that  one opportunity to grow that into                                                               
one compact instead.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:04:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH  confirmed this  and said  TCC was  offered by  IHS one                                                               
agreement in  the state  of Alaska.   Even  though a  compact had                                                               
never been  done before,  it made more  sense than  fighting over                                                               
it.   Being able to  visit other  IHS regions around  the country                                                               
and the  challenges they  face not being  within a  larger tribal                                                               
system, she explained, confirmed that  the decision by going with                                                               
one compact was the right one,  and that progress has come out of                                                               
the unification.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:06:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOERNER  added that  one other benefit  to having  the single                                                               
compact  is the  fact that  by having  it, the  board is  able to                                                               
create  institutional memory.   Ms.  Boerner related  anecdotally                                                               
that a tribe in Arizona had  made some inroads but not as swiftly                                                               
as were  made by  the tribes  in the compact  due to  the Arizona                                                               
tribe's  multiple changes  in leadership.   Institutional  memory                                                               
survives various changes in governance itself, she added.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:08:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP  remarked that every  tribe is able to  do an                                                               
individual compact under the law,  but he wondered whether it had                                                               
happened anywhere else.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:10:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.   BOERNER   replied  that   there   have   been  some   great                                                               
collaborative efforts  throughout the Lower  48 but not  a single                                                               
compact.    The  Northwest  Portland  Area  Indian  Health  Board                                                               
(NPAIHB)  has  46  federally  recognized  tribes  in  Washington,                                                               
Oregon, and  Idaho; they  have created the  NPAIHB and  have been                                                               
able to put  forward as a tribal organization  a unified position                                                               
on various health issues affecting  those 46 federally recognized                                                               
tribes, but it's  not the same as in the  compact, as each NPAIHB                                                               
tribe  enters into  its  own separate  compact  with the  federal                                                               
government, whereas the ATHC speaks as one voice.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:11:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ZULKOSKY  summed up  that effectively,  Alaska is  the only                                                               
state in the  nation with both the tribal  representation and the                                                               
economic  impact, and  the scopes  have  worked in  the size  and                                                               
breadth  and complexity  of its  type within  the compact  in the                                                               
country.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:12:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOERNER agreed with this summation.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:12:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special  Committee on  Tribal Affairs  meeting  was adjourned  at                                                               
9:13 a.m.                                                                                                                       

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Alaska Tribal Health Compact Amended and Restated October 1 2010.pdf HTRB 2/11/2020 8:00:00 AM
Alaska Tribal Health Compact
ATHC Negotiation overview.pdf HTRB 2/11/2020 8:00:00 AM
Alaska Tribal Health Compact
ATHC Negotiations Process.pdf HTRB 2/11/2020 8:00:00 AM
Alaska Tribal Health Compact
Differences Between Title I Contracting and Title V Compacting.pdf HTRB 2/11/2020 8:00:00 AM
Alaska Tribal Health Compact